Thread:Dragonus Nesha/@comment-2168633-20170817185855/@comment-25501246-20170819044031

ExcelCore wrote: KingCannon wrote: Your credibility is completely ruined due to the stuff you pulled here.

You literally invented info about a character and tried to pass it as truth to help your argument. And in an encyclopedian site no less. So you judge something not by merit but by the character of the person telling you something? Exactly what did I try and pull? The Tiger thing? Believe I was lying if you want, I can't find the actual info on the profiles anymore. So maybe I read it somewhere else? Who knows. The other stuff was correct though.

As for you Dragonus, it is true that I haven't posted anything, but neither have you. You have made claims and not posted any scientific studies that support it. If we don't know for sure, shouldn't we go by what we see? I the manga we see that Magne is a male. Reffering to Magne as a she and saying that he is transgender was a change, an edit of what we could actually see in the manga. When I pointed out that he wasn't transgenderm you started talking about transgenderism. Since you brought it up, the burden of proof lies with you. Same thing when you edited the wiki and changed it from the status quoe.

And that is another thing. You changed the wiki without having given enough time to discuss it with everyone, then you locked it. However when Meshack here changed it and added "sex: male", you undied his change and said it should be talked about first. But where was the real discussion before the original edit? And if you can just undo it like that, shouldn't there be a rollback to before the original change that was implemented before the lock?

I locked the page exactly because it would cause a controversy and an edit war (which happened). I tried to point out Magne's biological sex in the infobox, but someone undid that, and then others came while I was out.

Whether you lied or not, it doesn't matter. You claim to be on the side of science, but cannot bother to correctly research stuff to help your arguments (the cornerstone of science). Scientists and other professionals that don't research correctly lose credibility. Same if they lie. A poorly-researched academic paper is just as bad as one that lies about its subject. How am I supposed to take your word seriously when you say stuff like "I saw it once, but forgot where".

You admit to not post anything. But hey, at least GamingEmpire provided links to support his views, but you didn't try to disprove them with counterevidence, just claims of "biased sources". Heck, at least they're sources I can see, regardless of whether they're credible.

You also pointed out that Magne wasn't a transgender, but... based on what? "Magne is an Okama" was never that elaborated upon, not to mention that it works on the assumption that Okama can't be transgender as well. How do you even know the difference?

It's a fact though that four characters referred to Magne as female (Himiko, Spinner, Tomura and lately Twice) using specific female honorifics. Like you said, this is something we see. And you have not done a good job of proving otherwise. Your entire point on this was based on possible translating mistakes and the (erroneous) idea that Japanese doesn't have ways of addressing people through gender. Doesn't matter if they are pronouns, suffixes, honorifics or whatever.